so we're taking your thoughts on that question, do words matter? us on twitter @megynkelly, at our twitter page. this is "the kelly file." good night. welcome to "hannity," there is nowhere else to run. the administration is finally being forced to answer tough questions about the disastrous obama care rollout. tonight, we're going to be joined by a very outspoken studio audience, and they will ask about the explosive testimony on capitol hill and much more. >> let the grilling begin. >> i want to apologize to you that the website has not worked as well as it should. >> the officials responsible for the disastrous obama care rollout face the music on capitol hill. >> you're saying the system right now is working? >> i'm saying it is working.

it is just not working at the speed that we want. >> it was all one big lie. >> if you like your plan and you like your doctor you wouldn't have to do a thing. >> a new report proves that the administration knew that millions of americans would lose their insurance all along. >> you keep your plan, you keep your doctor. >> and our week-long series on the missed obama care warning signs continues. >> no matter how you look at this, health care costs are going to increase. >> so what do people really know about obama care? >> think affordable care act is more affordable than obama care? >> no. >> ainsley earhardt hits the streets to find out more. "hannity" starts now. we knew for three years that the administration said if you like your plan, you keep your plan, they lied to you, the american

people. and they didn't care. remember, this was their promise. >> under the reform we're proposing, if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. and if you do have health insurance we'll help to make sure your insurance is more affordable and more secure. if you like your health care plan you can keep your health care plan. >> if you have health insurance through your employer you can keep your health insurance, keep your choice of doctor, keep your plan. >> if you like your health care plan you will be able to keep your health care plan. period. >> not true, tonight, nbc news is in fact reporting that the obama administration knew as early as july of 2010 that, 50% of the american consumers who buy their insurance individually can expect to receive a cancellation letter or the equivalent over the next year. so how are they going to spin this? we bring in our distinguished

audience. hands up, everybody, how many people think that the president did not lie? one, two, three, four. all right, you guys stay right there. we're going to start with you. let's begin, ainsley, co-host, fox and friends first, to be fair to the president, he did actually say in the law if you like your plan you can keep your plan. that was up to march 23rd of 2010. then in july -- >> three months later we learned he did recognize you were not going to be able to keep your plan, or many were not going to be able to keep it. 50 to 60% of the people will lose their coverage. there is evidence to show that the president knew that many people would not be able to keep their plan. >> and for example, if there was change in coverage, all of a sudden, got grandfathered out. basil, you raised your hand. explain to me, the president -- how many times did this president make that promise if

you like your plan you can keep your plan? well, now, as many as 19 million people may lose their plan. >> two things, one, the insurance companies are not conforming. they can actually conform to be in what president obama is trying to do. they're choosing not to do that. a lot of the plans we're talking about, they're the so-called skinny plans. >> basil, i love you. if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. what part of that don't you understand? >> i understand that quite well. but i do not want to blame obama care for that. i would blame the insurance copcope companies -- companies for that. >> that is the old bait and switch. the president had it right in 2010, he said it is a big effing deal, because it is. you have 800,000 people in new jersey who had their insurance cancelled. you had had 3,000 people in

florida, blue customers, blue shield people in california lost their coverage. nearly 2 million people lost their coverage, and supposedly only 500,000 have signed up? >> well, we don't know, we didn't get an answer, we know we have 800,000, chris hahn, chuck schumer, jr., 800,000 people in jersey, the san francisco chronicle, thousands in california. if you like your plan, you can keep your plan. is it a lie? >> it was never an accurate statement, i will never accuse the president of lying, it was not an accurate statement. and the people who let him make the statement should not be in the administration. >> lies, the american people are getting hosed here. where is chuck schumer? at his old hotel room in hong kong hiding out?

listen, kathleen sebelius and president obama have done more to advance the conservative cause now since ronald reagan and barry goldwater combined. this is a disaster. breath-taking lie. >> the republican party conti e continues to have record low approval ratings, because kathleen sebelius -- >> just wait, this is what iran to jimmy carter has done. >> you compare that to taking hostages. >> i don't disagree, the intent is this -- it was well intentioned. i don't disagree with that. >> what part of -- if you like your plan. look, i love my kids, my kids are not perfect. but if they lie to me, they're really in trouble. i can deal with the mistakes that kids get into. but if they lie, they're in trouble. >> i don't think the president lied, he has to do a better job explaining this. >> have to explain it well. >> you have to understand --

this is a very small slice of those -- who are insured. >> 19 million. >> please, i'm not saying they don't matter. >> 19 million is a small slice of those who are insured. >> michelle, then jennifer. hang on -- michelle. >> well, i think the big issue here, the website is not a big deal. the big deal here is that it is not going to work. because in order for obama care to work, 2.7 million young people who are healthy need to sign up. and the young people who are trying to sign up are seeing an error page and they're not going to go back. because they don't have the time, they the old and sick are going to -- >> if the young people don't sign up, the other people die. >> and more to that point, the elderly people are sitting in front of their computers trying to log on regularly. the young people are not going to do that. unless you're like me getting paid on your show. most people don't have time to do that. the younger people are not going

to sign up. hey, the penalty is $95 a year if you don't sign up. why don't you just pay the money, and when you have a baby or get sick, then you buy in? >> i spoke with a woman on my radio show. she was featured in the l.a. times, her premiums are going up. she is four months pregnant. nearly tripling. and she voted for obama twice and regrets it. this is happening now, as many as 19 million people -- >> i say to women you need to wake up, don't focus on whether or not a politician has good intentions. we must focus on the results. let me take the small amount of 19 million people and tell you what happens to them. when they walk through their door at night, they have been dropped under obama care. their children can't get picked up under chip because of federal statutes. if they're in california and they lost their insurance and try to go on the exchange they wouldn't have access to the best hospitals, to cedar sinai or anywhere else, to the

specialists. so it doesn't matter if you're covered. you won't be covered. >> i like my health care plan, i can't keep my health care plan. i got this letter in the mail, this basically says that my plan is cancelled. all runs out december 31 of this year. you can take a look at that. that is what a cancellation letter looks like. this is what it is, you have obama care, you like it, it gets taken away. >> the pertinent part says you're policy will end, and replaced with renewal plans next year. this is what obama care does to people. you lose your insurance. and by the way -- people say oh, you will get a better plan. etter plan. plan, i don't want i want to keep the plan i have. i don't want to get a better plan that obama or anyone else wants to give me. >> it is a higher premium and co-pay. guess what? it is, you're right, we don't. we don't know because our system

has failed. >> roy murdock wants to keep his plan, the president sold that you can keep your plan. i'm not even discussing the higher payments premium plan, we'll discuss that later. why should not roy be able to keep his plan? >> well, his plan doesn't comply with the law. we have to make sure that people with pre-existing conditions are covered. i understand your plan has changed. but guess what? your plan was not a good plan. >> i resent the government taking it away from me, taking something from me that i was happy with. these new plan requires things like pediatric vision care, pregnancy care, i don't have any kids. >> one question, the president didn't say everybody has to be all in. he made a specific promise. he said the average family, too, would save $2500. why, as a liberal, would you

justify and make excuses to roy, who is one of millions of american americans that are now not able to keep their plan? why do you justify it? >> because obama care is taking us in the right direction. i believe -- that is the bottom line. making it easier us -- >> i promise you, we'll get back, coming up next, first, he has never been afraid to call out the administration, he is not stopping now. kentucky senator rand paul tells us what he expects to hear from kathleen sebelius who will be on capitol hill tomorrow. that and much more. stay with us. this is the quicksilver cash back card from capital one.

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> welcome back to "hannity," all eyes will be on capitol hill

tomorrow when lawmakers face off with hhs secretary kathleen sebelius. so what will happen when she is questioned? here with the preview, kentucky senator rand paul is here, good evening. >> good evening. >> let's start with what happened with marilyn tavenner, it was a disaster, she couldn't explain away the you can keep your own costs, and explain that it is not working. she said it is working really well if we just pay attention. >> i hope what we hear tomorrow from secretary kathleen sebelius is her resignation. i would say hers is an extraordinary level of incompetent, even at the government level. it really is -- i don't think they have the same ability that private business has to perform

functions. and i just imagine what would happen to the marketplace if we said to walmart, here is a $10 co-pay, the government will have insurance for your purchases at walmart. that would be a disaster. >> i guess the thing we're discussing here tonight, the president sold this to the american people one way, and now we know that as of july, 2010, they knew that there were going to be all of these americans with individual health plans that were going to lose their coverage. is that a lie, in your opinion? >> you know, 2 million people have had their policies cancelled now. in my state, 6500 people had theirs cancelled. and interestingly in my state, they say it is working because we have a state-run exchange. yeah, it is working for medicaid. nearly 90% of people signing up are signing up for free health care. sure, that is pretty popular. but the thing is, what is going

to happen is, the young healthy people may not sign up. and they told us that this would pay for itself. that it would actually reduce the deficit. that is one of the biggest whoppers among a bunch of lies, but the biggest whopper is president obama saying it would reduce the deficit. i think it will add trillions to the deficit. >> we have been following it. remember, they said it would be so easy to use. premiums would decrease. we know that is not true either. you can keep your doctor. if you like your plan you can keep your plan. it will only be $900 billion. tell me if i'm wrong in my analysis, senator. i see that the president pretty much had three options. once, this was the holy grail for the left for a long time. progressives have wanted this for a long time. but if they knew the truth about the effects, that it wouldn't garner enough votes in congress.

so they had three choices, the first was to tell the truth and push for the program anyway, the second was to change the program and address the concerns, and the third would be to lie. >> i think as disengene disinge nicer way of saying a lie, they say if you're going to lose your insurance, you lose your plan. he said no, if you have your doctor, you have your insurance plan and you can keep it. that was not being honest with the american people. now it is some of you can keep your plan. now, as the insurance plan comes out, for example, if your insurance is do gotoo good, you have to pay a tax, i had people come up and say i have to dpay

tax on my insurance because it is too good for obama care. >> now, others have joined in. they introduced the, if you like your plan, you can keep your plan act. is that going to go anywhere? >> well, i support it. what it is doing, with these crazy rules saying if your insurance is good, you can keep it. they slid this one word in, saying if your insurance changes from the time obama care is passed, you lose your insurance. they slipped it in because they want you to be on one of four government choices. there used to be hundreds and hundreds of insurance choices in our country, there will now be four. even if they tell you there are 20 different insurance exchanges in one plan, there are still only four choices. they're only allowed to sell four choices. this is really the taking of your freedom.

when ken churuccinelli talks ab it, he says this is a choice. >> i think they figured out there were 19 million fewer people that could be in the exchanges. and for this thing to work, they have to funnel everybody into it. in my mind, it was probably more sinister even than we know. good to see you, senator. thank you. we'll be back with our very lively studio audience, first. >> you will have taxes on new insurance, drugs, taxes on medical devices. >> all week long, our series continues, a chilling message was delivered back in 2009 by a former aide to president reagan. it happened right here on this program. we'll play you this later. and what do you like better, the obama care act or the affordable care act? >> right now, i don't think i'm educated enough on either to make a really good opinion about it. >> oh boy, low information voter

centrum. our very own ainsley earhardt hit the streets to explain that obama care and affordable care act are actually one and the same. and by the way, they may cancel out your well-informed vote as we

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remind you, the viewers, of the dangers we said would happen if obama care was implemented. here is yet another example from this show way back in 2009. >> there is nothing in the house or senate bills that will enable americans to have the kind of cost control that the president is promising. if you look at the house will, which is a $1.3 trillion bill, there is going to be a very significant increase in health care spending and there will be an increase in the health care cost. in the senate bill, the one that has just been released by the senate finance committee, you're going to have new taxes on health insurance. you will have taxes on drugs. you will have taxes on medical devices. so no matter how you look at this, health care costs, both for individuals and for the country, as a whole, are going to increase. >> and we bring back our studio audience with reaction. kirsten. all right, you can keep your plan, if you like it -- but the big part of this, the foundation

was that the average american family is going to save $2500 a year. and then it was only going to cost $900 billion. none of which was true. >> and i think the average american family is just tired of not being able to trust what their leaders say. we're all tired of this. this comes down to basic philosophy and the people who govern. and president obama and his administration and many people on the left believe that the government knows what is better for you. this is something that is fundamental to this country, that like rand paul said, freedom to choose what is best for our family. and as soon as that is gone, the government that gives you everything can also take everything. and the americans need to wake up. >> you're a supporter of this, you're a liberal professor, sorry. you're a supporter of this. i would assume that if the students cheated on a test, and were a little dishonest, what would happen? >> they never cheated, first of

all. they would get in big trouble. but i think we need to go back and think about the bigger picture here, we don't know yet the issue of the cost. this may very well bring the cost down. >> oh, yes, we do. >> no we don't. we went back to the earlier statement. it is the health insurance companies that are cancelling people's programs. it is the health insurance companies that can -- >> wait a minute, they are abiding. >> they are choosing to make this poor man pay more for the services. they -- >> they are forced because of the -- wait a minute. >> so -- >> doesn't mean -- hang on a second, it is because, roy, your letter says they point to obama care. >> of course they do. what are they going to say? what are they going to say? they're going to say -- >> hold on. go ahead. >> it is amazing what lengths the left will go to, to defend obama. he lied to they are hu

hurting and suffering now. obama things we're too stupid to make decisions for themselves, because obama wants to fundamentally transform america and he is doing so right now with health insurance, which is ridiculous. >> let me go to noah, you work in the media, you cover the media. which is ridiculous. only now it seems they're getting involved. maybe that is why the nbc report was so shocking. >> it is almost worse, because the community is welcoming the destruction of what is called the skinny plans. it is ultimately the fatal technocrat conceit, that they know better what is best for the american people. these are grandfathered regulations, and they could be adapted by the regulation the same way that the law has been enacted by the executive account before. nobody is asking why can't you

just ask how the rules are being applied? >> how about they go back to the original plan. charles, you work in the business industry. you know the economy better than anybody. there was a san jose mercury news case, one guy, premium up of four, his plan is going up 10 grand. >> the idea that it would bend the cost was a lie. i have to tell you something, so far i heard that it is the insurance company's fault. i heard the president had an incompetent staff. and that the teleprompter was not working. he was been called a liar, the reality was this law was extraordinarily flawed and doomed from the start. and when this goes through, eventually it will lead to extraordinarily higher taxes and just a devastation to our health care as we know today. >> a general question for everybody. is it a crisis that the president of the united states purposely knows the truth and doesn't tell you the truth?

yeah, right here. >> yes, it absolutely is. it is a lack of accountability culture that president obama has created in his presidency. there is no accountability for his actions, he lied to the american people, actions speak louder than words. he knows there will be no consequences for his actions. >> wait, you're a democratic strategist. hang on, democratic strategist, go ahead. >> look, what the president should have probably said if you like your plan and your insurance companies continues to provide it, you can keep it. that is what has been happening here. insurance companies -- >> would have, could have, should have. >> the insurance plan for any particular reason, 90% of the people, he was absolutely right. >> i mean, accountability, credibility, let's talk about deniability. the president is not accountable for anything.

he is denying -- >> don't you feel your president needs to be accountable on this? >> i think he was being absolutely truthful. he was talking about an employer-based system. >> wait a minute, their own estimates after they took away the grandfathered insurance policies, their own estimates said up to 67% of americans wouldn't be able to keep their policy. they knew in july of 2010. why not come out and say -- >> the fact is that most people don't stay in the same insurance plan for very long. by choice. >> that is not true at all. i've had the same insurance policy for 20 years. >> because you have had been in same job, most people are changing jobs. >> he was selling his program. so he was doing whatever it took to make sure it passed. it was telling -- he was telling -- >> i promise, i know scotty wants to get in. i promise -- how are you? we'll take a break. we'll be right back, and coming

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now our problem, with all the broken promises and problems, how could that be the answer? well, we sent our good friend ainsley earhardt to go out and prove that the affordable care act is actually the same as obama care? >> what do you like better, the obama care or the affordable care act? >> right now, i don't think i'm educated enough on either to make a really good opinion about them, so i definitely need to look into it more. >> we're talking about obama care versus the affordable care act. do you have a preference? >> not really. >> what do you think is better, obama care or affordable care act? >> i'm not sure, i think half and half. >> think affordable care act is better than obama care? >> no. >> which one do you support? >> obama care. >> well, it is a mess either way. so you can't go on the website, can't figure out how to do it. >> are all the plans really confusing? >> that the people are trying to

get. i have no idea. >> i'm probably not for either of the current two proposals on the table. >> which plan do you support? are they all too confusing? do you know the difference in the four? >> the distinctions are in many cases subtle, in many cases clear, but no, the answer is i don't. do you think the affordable care act will be affordable? >> from what i have heard, i don't think so. but like i said, i don't know enough about it to make that statement. >> do you think obama care is more affordable than affordable care act? >> aren't those one and the same? >> bingo! you're the only one who has gotten it right! >> all right, the results make a lot of sense, one, to connect the dots we turn things back to our studio audience, they didn't know the difference. >> everybody is oh, ya, he got it. we interviewed like 25 people in times square in front of our

office here on sixth avenue, and two people got it right. >> you got to admit, the half and half was a great answer. >> i like the guy who said the subtle difference. i'm like -- this was a problem in terms of -- rush limbaugh uses the term, you know, bernie, low information voters. >> the common denominator, it is pretty scary, but should be a cautionary tale for those on the right. a lot of people do want something done about the system that was in place, just before obama care. >> i do agree, i think conservatives need to articulate their answers better. everyone agree with that? hang on -- >> and answers, sean -- >> no, i -- wait a minute, i gave the answer to last time. i want individual health savings accounts that would incentivize people to get a check-up every

year so you can detect things early. you build up the fund throughout your lifetime. most young people don't need expensive health care, but it also has catastrophic insurance, god forbid, you have a heart attack, need a knee replacement. it is covered. >> but i don't see the republicans running the caucuses in the house and senate proposing anything that they could get by. they just don't want to talk about it. >> to be perfectly honest, times square is not exactly where -- >> i'll give you a thousand dollars if you can pull that off. >> you already lost a bet to me, my friend, which you you have yet to make good on. i would also say this to that point. obama care, the polls show, consistently show, especially since the shutdown that people support it. and they do. yes, they do. the numbers have gone up. and sean, here -- >> go ahead. >> here is the problem, let me just finish, the problem is that you, once again, people don't

want to acknowledge what polls show. you thought romney was going to win. >> obama care never had a majority support. >> obama care -- rasmussen came out with the report. i'm going to still say that 42% of people agree with obama, 40% also agree with the tea party. so across the board -- >> in reality. >> they might not like the gop. i don't like the gop right now. i think that is the major issue we have. the medical professionals are getting screwed. the patients are getting screwed. who is benefitting from this policy? >> thank you very much, i would like to point out to accommodate for obama care, they're having to decrease hours, we're seeing an increase in temporary workers added to the economy. so you have higher taxes to cover this thing. we're looking at an overall economic slowdown, which is worse than what we're seeing right now. >> we haven't heard from you. >> that is the important point here with the 19 million people who buy their own health

insurance. that is a growing pool. that will continue to grow as people lose their employer-based health insurance as the employers limit spouse coverage. they offered these benefits. now because of the costs continuing to rise, they're not offering them anymore. we act like the vast majority of people buy their insurance through their employer, which may have been true in the past. but we watch what happens with the obama care, i got a letter too, and looked at my new premium, and it is twice as much. i got my letter, it is twice as much. >> how much -- >> they gave me a price. but they couldn't enroll me. they couldn't enroll me. they said call with the reference number. >> the rough increase i have seen, i make all the comparisons, but i think it is 560 versus 606. i will pay for things like vision care, substance abuse care.

it is a little like buying a car, it is sort of like the person saying the ford focus, you don't want that, you want the lincoln with the better tires and suspension, and by the way, you pay triple for it. >> and no choice in the matter, by the way. >> if i'm a young person, i only want catastrophic care, and that is cheap. >> and by the way, a lot of people want catastrophic care, and they took it away, from small business owners, and women, if you're not under 30 or have a financial hardship. you lose your health savings account and lose your catastrophic care. furthermore, for the young, if they don't pay their $95, what is the federal government going to do? they're going to take a gun to their head? they're going to try to lien property? the young don't own property. >> they're going to spy on you more. >> what are you going to do is what the liberals -- >> i have to take a break. we'll be right back. it is the eve of accountability, kathleen sebelius, death panel

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and welcome back to "hannity," we are less than 12 hours away from a showdown on capitol hill between the lawmakers and the architect of obama care, that is health and human secretary, kathleen "death panel" sebelius, because they wanted her to be on the adult transplant list, she wouldn't sign the waiver. that, to me, was a death sentence. >> absolutely, we were just talking about taxes, obama

promised he was not going to raise taxes on any family makes less than $250,000 a year. we'll see taxes increase on tons of people, and premiums rising, many people have already lost their insurance. he promised everybody would be able to keep whatever plan they wanted. he said that over 12 times. what he was, was a used car salesman who was basically saying anything to sell it to the american people. >> wait a second, i agree with the analysis. i think it is like a used car salesman. >> yeah, he knew the talking points, knew how to sell it. he lied. >> it was a bait and switch. he did whatever he needed to do to sell this law, the policies. >> i just think that we found out today that if you are young and healthy you will have to pay probably about $50, half of young people who are eligible -- $50 a month. why wouldn't you do that. >> they're not going to spend more money on their insurance when they are healthy. >> they're not spending more money. >> they're going

fix what the problem is. >> brian? >> we have been paying for for years, people using emergency room as a primary care physician. that is not being discussed here. >> go head. >> this is partially true. danine said where are we getting this money?

my generation, obama shot himself in the foot by allowing kids to stay on their parents plan until they're 26 years old. it doesn't add to the pile or the money for this. for the program. >> we've got discussions about costs and taxes. one segment saying this is just driving costs up. health care costs in this country over three years have increased less than they have over the last three decades. >> i have a question. then why are many americans getting sticker shock and paying higher premiums? >> because you're getting better health care. you're talking about a -- talking about it. >> because you can't be rejected. no longer can you be rejected. >> this is going to be a great web site rollout. you don't know until later. >> you can no longer be rejected for preexisting

conditions. >> you have to know what government-run health care is all about. any veteran, we've had firsthand experience with what it is like. and so what we're seeing is you can't enroll. people are not going to be able tone roll. we're going see a huge claims backlog oo. we've got to take a break. >> when we come back, closing thoughts from a very, very shy, quiet studio audience. stay with us. final thoughts coming up. this day calls you. to fight chronic osteoarthritis pain. to fight chronic low back pain. to take action. to take the next step. today, y will know you did something for your pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is a pain reliever fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day,

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we continue now, final thoughts from our studio audience. >> i love my friends but i will say part of the reason you're seeing this is because you no longer have lifetime caps. three fourths of the people under these crammy plans you

want to keep are going bankrupt. >> go ahead. >> it's not about what i want to keep. it's what people, individually want to do, called freedom. the government should have been start. >> we have selective memories. when bush was president tried to roll out medicaid part d, fraught with problems. democrats said work with him. >> what they should and should not have is toxic. >> it's going to backfire. >> politically. >> 2007 president obama said it is a single payer system in 10 years. this is just the beginning of the chaos. >> our friends on the left like to talk about a womans respect to the right to choogs. >> you say i'm going to have better health care, it's what

i get from my doctor, health insurance is a piece of paper. i should be free to choose what is in that. >> you're putting a new one on the economy. we're broke as it s i don't know how any of this is going to fly. >> how many people you mentioned are going to lose jobs out of this? >> debbie waserman shultz say they're going to win elections on oak yauma care. baghdad bombs had a better grip on reality. >> i want to say politicians up for reelection next year and bush republicans and senate democrats are going to be on the run. >> give it to the guy next to you. >> president obama's smart and efficient government promise failed also but this is showing big government policies do not work.

>> how many think this i is -- considering this is a holy grail of regressive liberal movement. how many of you think is going to set back liberalism for a long period of time? >> no way. >> i think when this is fully implemented by next year people are going to love it. republicans are gooding to start embracing it and start taking credit for it, too. >> ronald reagan said that freedom is always only one generation way from exstimpx. we have to fight for it this, is a huge part of the bat yes. government cannot continue to expand beyond what it can in our personal liveses. >> i don't for see room for banks hoisting americans with houses they couldn't afford but it's okay for the president to hoist health care americans can't afford.

>> don't forget. start the day with ainsley. we'll see you back here tomorrow night. this is a fox news alert. h.h.s. secretary kathleen sebelius has just announced a new date. she has now agreed to also testify before the u.s. senate on november 6th she will be there. that's the date she will appear before the senate finance committee. and tomorrow, of course, she testifies at a house energy and commerce committee hearing. and right now how is it that president obama seems to be the last to know? isn't he president? isn't obama care his program. first it was the rollout flop and now -- >> according to news reports, the obama administration knew for at least three years that millions, millions of americans would not be able to keep their health coverage.